Is Update KB3103709 Fake?

It's Thursday morning, and I still have no idea.

It is Friday AM and still no KB

I will not install anything anymore from MS without a KB

Especially if they continue to put spyware in security updates!

KB3139929

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3139929

Has KB3146449 in it

To me this is one of the most underhanded, disgusting things a corporation can do, if I was not in the business I would uninstall every Microsoft product for that one.

NOT EVRYONE WANTS WINDOWS 10! and those that do already have it
Stop this constant nagging

It's Friday afternoon, and I still haven't seen anything.

There's a rumor circulating about a KB3103709 pop-up. If they're true - I haven't seen one personally - the pop-up is obviously malware. This KB3103709 appears as a regular, old-fashioned Windows update.

It's not a fake update. It's another Windows 10 push. Here is my transcript of a chat with a Microsoft Tech. Apologies for the formatting:

Lets see if I understand...

"Me

Ok.... so... it's awesome for Microsoft support engineers that we make our computer unusable with windows 10.

And not a word about inside information to correct KB article web page.

Good service, microsoft support!

:)

It's pretty obvious that you were talking to a bot, not a human. None of your questions were answered, the bot simply didn't understand what you were asking about, but instead assumed it has to do with Windows 10. Just read the answer to your mentioned Windows 10 problems: "That's awesome:)" That doesn't make any sense in the context of your question, the only trigger surely was Windows 10.

So your chat is effectively useless and doesn't provide any helpful information about KB3103709. In other sources I've read that this KB has more likely to do with Active Directory:

http://www.borncity.com/blog/2016/03/16/windows-updates-vom-15-3-2016/#comment-29694

The "chat" with Skepticaluser_2016 made me want to puke.  In addition to the totally inappropriate "That's awesome:)" you cited, the rest of what follows is teeth-grindingly awful.  If it is a real person she should get fired or, more relevantly, her trainers, and MS should be ashamed.

And if is a robot, MS should be ashamed for using such a stupid system.

Thorsten, I followed your link and saw the suggestion about Active Directory (yes, I can read German...).

Spike2 from the comment @ borncity you hyperlinked and two comments from askwoody here:

KB3103709 is about Active Directory.

After installing the patch KB3103709 (which may be uninstalled easily, so no risk here), it did what I expected:
It wrote new files “ntdsai.dll” & “dsparse.dll” (both are part of the Microsoft Active Directory Services) and backuped the older ones to sub-directory in c:\windows\WinSxS\. Nothing that has the slightest thing to do with Win10.

(Btw: the patch would be rather too small to be Win10, too…)

You can verify that for yourself, by either…

– …installing the patch and check file dates for both said files and / or run in a command prompt in the c:\windows\WinSxS-directory the following: “dir /O:-D /P /S /T:C” (this commmand lists all files by time created, newest first) and you’ll see by the date & time of the backup-directorys for ntdsai.dll & dsparse.dll that those dates correspond to the date and time you installed KB3103709 and that the folder name gives a clear info that it belongs to Microsoft Active Directory Services

AND / OR

– …you download the single patch, extract it and check in the manifest-files and XML-file for yourself that this patch only touches the Active Directory component of Windows 8.1.

While KB3103709 might not be necessary for home users not using MS ADS, it won’t hurt to install it.

Best regards,

Spike2

P.S.: Sorry, if some sentences may sound strange in my posting – english is not my native language and my school-english got a bit rusty over the years.

Ok, so you said

Der andere „Phantom-Patch“ ohne Knowledge-Base-Artikel, KB 3115224, scheint einige Sicherheits-/Krypto-Zertifikate zurückzuziehen / ersetzen / erneuern. Also vermutlich auch OK, das zu installieren.

Translated:

The other "Phantom patch" without Knowledge Base article, KB 3115224, seems to retire / replace / renew some security / crypto certificates. So probably OK to install them.

But I actually found that one here:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3115224

This clearly shows your information isn't reliable at least in the second case. Not sure what would help me believe that the first one is right.

Since most updates are useless anyway, it's probably best to ignore this update and instead of trying to go by unreliable information.