People have confused the words "same" with "bad"

To me they are bad.  Use to like the series but do not any more.  Played the game tonight with my son and every match was messed up.  We would leave only to be put in another.  Last match there was a guy with unlimited grenade launcher ammo.  He was just lobbing it onto people from across the map.  And then he killed me with a missile strike that hit outside the building I was in.  I was on the other side of the building at that.

This is not to mention the other horrible gameplay elements.  One of which is the lack of polish.  When I get a kill with a scar-h by turning around and hitting the other player with one bullet in the azz that is bad.  So many things that needed some work.  And Black OPS is no better.

no, every COD past 3 (which includes COD4) has been subpar to both COD 2 and 3.  COD 4 was average at best, and didnt do anything new.  Its popular because it went into the modern era in a time when WWII games were on the market, and only had Halo 3 to compete with.  Plus it was a game that was easy to pick up and do well in.  Its not deserving of all the hype it got, nor was it revolutionary in anyway nor did it raise the FPS bar at all.

Since then, each and every COD game has been like that.  Same engine, same graphics, same OP perks and computers, only difference is that it started to go downhill, and fast.  WaW was decent, similar to COD 4, but had a lot of problems that made it unplayable.  MW 2 had even more and saw how many hackers and modders, and brought out the worst in the community.  BO is following, they did improve a few things from MW 2, but using the same engine for the 4th time in a row has made the gameplay old and stale.  MW 3 will no doubt be more of the repetitive shovelware.  Not to mention all of the other bugs, glitches, and broken parts of the game that havent been fixed since COD 4 or even before.

Wow kramer. When you talk about what game is better, it's only on opinion, right?  In my opinion they have been getting better, so that makes what you are saying about what is going down hill not a fact. Just checking to see if you understand this.  I wasn't going to let you troll me out of this dive of a forum. You can get people to troll me all you like. But the fact of the matter is I am here to talk about a new game that is about to come out, and all you do (imo) is trash it, yet I am the unwelcome one here.  We get you don't like the game. Go tell them that in the bf forum oh wait no one is over there..

Everything I say about which game is better is opinion, however I can offer facts about whats broken within COD, whats being improved on in BF, and can judge MW 3 off the fact that every COD since 4 has used the same engine, and has the same problems.  And I dont get people to troll you.  If anything youre the one trolling.  People "attack" you because you provoke them.  

Well you should add the IMO when needed like everyone else.  You act like you are some authority on the state of COD, but that is all clouded by the "O" in "IMO"   And yeah, maybe you didn't ask everyone to hurl insults at me, people whom I wasn't even talking to, but you didn't help things with your trolling, Mr. CUL &.

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no, every COD past 3 (which includes COD4) has been subpar to both COD 2 and 3. IYO COD 4 was average at best, and didnt do anything new. IYO Its popular because it went into the modern era in a time when WWII games were on the market, IYO and only had Halo 3 to compete with.  Plus it was a game that was easy to pick up and do well in. IYO Its not deserving of all the hype it got, nor was it revolutionary in anyway nor did it raise the FPS bar at all. IYO

Since then, each and every COD game has been like that. IYO Same engine, same graphics,IYO same OP perks IYO and computers, only difference is that it started to go downhill, and fast.  IYO WaW was decent, similar to COD 4, but had a lot of problems that made it unplayable.IYO  MW 2 had even more and saw how many hackers and modders, and brought out the worst in the community.  BO is following, they did improve a few things from MW 2, but using the same engine for the 4th time in a row has made the gameplay old and stale.IYO  MW 3 will no doubt be more of the repetitive shovelware.IYO  Not to mention all of the other bugs, glitches, and broken parts of the game that havent been fixed since COD 4 or even before.IYO

[/quote]How hard is it to do that? only you would replace the Y with the M (the M stands for M, here it stood for  YOUR)  Its pretty obvious you get some wood from hating this game so much. IMO its not health to dwell so much on things you cant change.

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Well you should add the IMO when needed like everyone else.  You act like you are some authority on the state of COD, but that is all clouded by the "O" in "IMO"   And yeah, maybe you didn't ask everyone to hurl insults at me, people whom I wasn't even talking to, but you didn't help things with your trolling, Mr. CUL &.

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See unlike you, some of us have been playing COD since the PS2 days, and we have something to compare it to, while most compare each and every COD game to either COD 4, or their first COD game after than.  Me, and many others have seen the ups and downs of the series.  Many of the things in COD now, and been implemented in 4, arent new.  A lot of them were from COD 3, which implemented them better.  Want an example, host migration.  BO host migration is terrible.  Host can just dashboard and the lobby closes.  Its an annoyance, and interrupts the game.  Now, in COD 3, host migration was worked almost flawlessly.  Everyone as technically the host, but it had to have some person be the one that started the lobby, picked the map and game mode.  Now if he left, or dashboarded, the lobby wouldnt close, nor would the game stop, the game would keep going, and someone new was found in an instant.  Now, which sounds better the former or the latter?

Just because you have played them since way back whenever, it doesn't give you the right to put people down who enjoy is  game and what it has evolved into today.   And to sit there and tell anyone who will reply to you about how long you been with cod, what you think of it now, and what you think of the people who play it today, is kind of Dbaggy, IMO. And that is cause you rinse and repeat your message. I speak for the human race when I say "we get it"

imo, you are like that kid who listened to limp bizkit a summer before they got big, and hated it when they blew up, and hated the people who now enjoyed listening to them. but I could be wrong.

I'm waiting to see what they'll reveal in the trailer coming this week. Hopefully we'll see a glimpse of multi at E3.