So, after getting the 'update 5' saved on my hdd I started to get the screen freeze glitch. I read some forums and found it wasn't just me. The most common advice was to make multiple save files and hope they fix it. That's what I did. Now I find that the glitch will indeed be stored on my saves. It hits randomly with little to no advanced signs or warnings. I've had just about enough of Bethesda's support for the 360. New Vegas was released with a ton of easy to find glitches (easy to find if you actually do some beta testing.) Oblivion (also by Bethesda,) brags about the hundreds of hours of game play only to find that once you have hundreds of hours of game play, the game erupts in a game ending glitch that ends your characters career. I still love the games, but I'm not spending another dime on this studio Skyrim or not, until they make good on their product. Fair is fair after all, I give you money, you give me something that works, or you fix it, now. Of course they won't really care until it hits them in their pocket books, and judging by all the people frothing at the mouth for the next DLC it ain't about to happen.