Geesh, the 360 is old and busted. I have seen and played 60 fps and it makes 30 fps suck. For a non shooter 30 is OK. But for battlefield 3 is is NOT. I am afraid, due to wanting to make as much money as possible they squeezed a game into an old and busted 360. Battlefield 3 will be a great game no doubt, but at 30 fps it might be a show stopper for me getting is for the 360.