Some key questions about Call of Duty Elite answered.

 

This week's reveal of Call of Duty Elite left us – and you, if the comments are any indication – with more questions than answers. So we rounded up Activision VP of Digital Jamie Berger to answer some of the more common questions. For his part, Berger wasn't shy about acknowledging that confusion. "There's just going to be confusion," he told me over the phone. "There's just so much we're trying to lay out in front of people at one time. So not at all surprised that we either weren't clear on some points or people were confused." The biggest point of confusion was undoubtedly the free aspects of the service, so let's start there:

 

What's free in Call of Duty Elite?
"The whole Career section," Berger tells me. "All of your stats, the personalized leadersboards, the heatmaps, the weapon stats, the ability to import your Facebook friends ... personal best, ability to compare, etc." This section bears the most resemblance to other offerings in the space, notably Bungie.net, as many of you mentioned. And like the core Bungie.net service, this section of Elite will remain free, including new features that are added to it.

 

Sounds un-innovative you say? Berger says it's up to the team at Beachhead to push for "innovation, even in things that have been well established like a heatmap or a leaderboard, where we know there's room for improvement." The Career features will be front and center in the beta this summer, so interested parties will have plenty of opportunities to tell Beachhead how innovative they are.



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What about the Connect tab? Are Groups and Clans free?

 

The Connect tab is less cut and dry. Groups, for example, will be free but not all features of Clans will be free. "We think it's critical that [Groups] be made available to everyone," Berger explains. "And we think Groups, as kind of the underlying social structure for all of Call of Duty multiplayer, it's important that it be something that's accessible to everyone and in a way it only works properly when it's accessible to everyone, because of the idea of big, massive groups and crazy niche ones."

 

But what about Clans? They operate as smaller, invite-only Groups and almost, by that very nature, would appeal to the more hardcore (read: more likely to pay) players. But even that isn't as simple as "Clans will be premium." Berger tells me, "We definitely want to find a way of making Clans available to everyone. That's one of those ones that's definitely a shared goal amongst us." On the other hand, Berger says, "we also want to make it something that premium members have some kind of premium element to that and engage in more competition as a Clan. That's one of the ones you'll see us finding ways for both to co-exist."

 

Lastly, the video upload ability of Connect – sharing video content, tagging your friends – will be free, allowing you to upload an "unlimited" number of videos.

 

Will the Compete functionality only be accessible to premium members?
While Berger wouldn't say definitively that Compete would be limited to paying members only, he did say, "It's one of those things that requires a tremendous amount of energy on the backend, to manage, to operate, to prize, to administer, so it's certainly one of those things that lends itself to needing a premium aspect to it." Sounds premium to us.

 

And what about the last tab, Improve? Premium?
"To a large extent, the thing about Improve, that's probably the one you've seen the least of," Berger teases. "I think we're doing some really terrific base things, which you saw last month, but I also believe it's the one that will change the most dramatically by the time November rolls along." Certainly, what we saw didn't seem worthy of a premium membership here, but Berger promises, "We'll be adding in a lot of functionality over the next six months." Our guess: premium, at least in part.

 

What is the distinction between a paying Elite member and a free Elite member?
One of the most confusing aspects of the Elite reveal was the lack of a distinction between the various tiers. Consider: Bungie.net access and Bungie Pro. Berger agreed that could be confusing. "Elite membership is our nomenclature for the group that gets everything and, in its simplest form, is the membership," Berger says. In other words, while non-paying users of Elite may have access to a lot of the features, they're not considered "members" and are instead considered simply registered users. This point, while seemingly mired in semantics, goes a long way towards understanding the audience confusion over the product. The default language being used implies a paid service, though no payment is required to use many of its features.

 

Is Elite membership required to play Modern Warfare 3 online?
And here you can see where the confusion comes from – if many readers presume that Elite is a paid service built for Modern Warfare 3, they may also erroneously assume it's required to play Modern Warfare 3 online. "This is a voluntary thing," Berger says. "You're not required to have it." While interested players will be able to create an Elite account right inside the game, it won't be a mandatory requirement to play MW3. And again, after signing up for Elite, the paid membership is another option, but not mandatory.

 

Will the premium Elite membership include all the DLC? There won't be anything not covered?
"Yes, you get all the content," Berger says. "We're not holding anything back. When we say it's all-inclusive, we really mean that. There are no gotchas there, with another DLC pack that we're going to ask you to buy outside of the Elite membership. If you're a member, you get everything."

 

What about the other way around? Will there be any DLC that is exclusive to premium Elite members?
Berger was predictably careful when discussing this topic, but he did say, "We're hearing loud and clear from our players that they're really interested in experimenting with new forms of content outside of the traditional construct of how a map pack works." Pre-selling a year's worth of DLC content means Activision can try something different. "What I will tell you is I think there's going to be a lot of great changes in the way we think about content and I think the membership is enabling us to do some creative things that the traditional marketplace won't."

 

Will PS3 Elite members still have to wait 30 days to get access to the DLC that their membership entitles them to?
"If you're a member, whether a PlayStation 3 or an Xbox member, you're going to get all the same services and you're going to get all the same content," Berger explains. "That said, we've had a terrific relationship with the Xbox team and that has included a 30-day window of exclusivity for map packs. And I believe we announced that would continue for Modern Warfare 3." Translation: Sorry PS3 Elite members, you've still got to wait. However, that DLC will still be included in your all-inclusive paid Elite membership.

 

Will you tell us how much DLC we'll be getting with our Elite memberships? It's hard to ask people to pay when they don't know what they're buying.
While Activision is still rather secretive about all the features that Modern Warfare 3 multiplayer and, by extension, Call of Duty Elite will offer, Berger did say that when it comes time to talk pricing, that veil of secrecy will be entirely done away with. "We're going to be very, very explicit and very upfront about how the whole year is going to roll out for content, which I think is a big change for us," Berger says. "Typically, as it is now, we would maybe announce a map pack thirty days in advance. That's going to change with Elite, we know that since we're asking people to join something, we have to be very transparent and very open about what you're going to get. And very detailed. So when we announce everything, we're going to put it all on the table and that includes all the content, what the commitments are that we're making to content and what the timing's going to be."

 

In other words, when Activision is ready to start charging for Elite, it will pre-announce its entire DLC plan, including individual pricing we imagine, to entice players to sign-up, effectively pre-purchasing the year's content.

 

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i read somewhere..possibly Eurogamer? I can't remember now? Anyway... it's rumored to be only £3 a month or thereabouts for the premium stuff... still... i think the fact Activision have finally found a way to charge people for essentially playing COD (at least to get the full benefit) says a lot about how gaming is going...i know it's a business..but without all these add ons and premium memberships and online passes for this that and the other it's already a multi-billion dollar industry...what else do they need to bleed out of people

Thanks for posting the info Mr Smash.

 

However, and I accept others won't agree, some will, but my initial 2 words I thought of after reading that are ... " RIP OFF " ...

 

People will say "well no-one is forcing you" very true as the game doesn't interest I'm not buying it but as I've said time and time again I just wish for the sake of the genuine COD fans out there that the devs would give people some answers/info and what they/might do this time to support the community if/when the idiots get their hands into the online side!

Both previous Modern Warfare games has had the least DLC in comparison to all other Call of Duty titles. If Activision follow the same trend with MW3, to receive all DLC packs for MW3 with ELITE will hardly seem worth it.

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Thanks for posting the info Mr Smash.

 

However, and I accept others won't agree, some will, but my initial 2 words I thought of after reading that are ... " RIP OFF " ...

 

People will say "well no-one is forcing you" very true as the game doesn't interest I'm not buying it but as I've said time and time again I just wish for the sake of the genuine COD fans out there that the devs would give people some answers/info and what they/might do this time to support the community if/when the idiots get their hands into the online side!

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See i understand that people see it as a rip off and thats fair enough. I personally feel they may go more in depth about online protection after they have announced the new features of the game at E3, thats my hope anyway. I think Elite seems worth it for those who want it, it became alot better when DLC was included in the package, so if it was about £3 a month, you get all the DLC and everything else it offers, doesn't sound too bad to be fair.

 

If its 3£ a month i will be amazed but even at that price its still alot more then what the map packs for MW2 cost and having just seen the SUAM video with some information in it, im even more convinced its not worth 3£ a month.

Theres going to be alot of kids begging parents for a COD subscription come November

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If its 3£ a month i will be amazed but even at that price its still alot more then what the map packs for MW2 cost and having just seen the SUAM video with some information in it, im even more convinced its not worth 3£ a month.

Theres going to be alot of kids begging parents for a COD subscription come November

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I wonder though how many parents will give in though? It's sad to say but probably the parents who half the time don't care what their youngs one are upto will probably pay so they are out of there hair.

 

 

 

Im guessing alot of parents will give up, i was in Game last week and some kid, think he must of been ten years old or so, was badgering his mum for GTA IV on the Xbox, she lasted about 20 seconds before she gave up and bought it for him. Though she did comprimise, she made him use 2£ of his own money.....

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Im guessing alot of parents will give up, i was in Game last week and some kid, think he must of been ten years old or so, was badgering his mum for GTA IV on the Xbox, she lasted about 20 seconds before she gave up and bought it for him. Though she did comprimise, she made him use 2£ of his own money.....

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As much as i agree parents need to toughen up abit, i remeber when i was about 7/8 playing the first GTA games with my brothers. I have always had no age rating limit because i would play them all with my brothers. I think it's hard to have a violotile opinion on someone doing that because we do nnot know the circumstances.


In reference to Elite, i think alot of parents will buy it for their child but it does no harm to be fair. if it was £3 a month that is less than the £40 a year paid for live, i think it not too bad and would come acorss the same to parents. Obviously you may think it's a waste but if people will buy it, why not?

[quote user="ReaganSmash1994"]As much as i agree parents need to toughen up abit, i remeber when i was about 7/8 playing the first GTA games with my brothers. I have always had no age rating limit because i would play them all with my brothers. I think it's hard to have a violotile opinion on someone doing that because we do nnot know the circumstances.


In reference to Elite, i think alot of parents will buy it for their child but it does no harm to be fair. if it was £3 a month that is less than the £40 a year paid for live, i think it not too bad and would come acorss the same to parents. Obviously you may think it's a waste but if people will buy it, why not?

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Parents do need to toughen up, i have lost count of how many times i have seen mummy buying little Jimmy GTA/MW2/what ever in Game stores, i would never even consider letting a 7/8 year old play a GTA game, regardless of weather its with older brothers or not.

 

Again, alot of parents will buy it, because little Jimmy will complain till he gets it, then if its 3£ a month, thats 36£ a year for subscription, 40£ for the game. If my mother bought all my games i might not think tis too bad either but at the end, its a poor show

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[quote user="ReaganSmash1994"]As much as i agree parents need to toughen up abit, i remeber when i was about 7/8 playing the first GTA games with my brothers. I have always had no age rating limit because i would play them all with my brothers. I think it's hard to have a violotile opinion on someone doing that because we do nnot know the circumstances.


In reference to Elite, i think alot of parents will buy it for their child but it does no harm to be fair. if it was £3 a month that is less than the £40 a year paid for live, i think it not too bad and would come acorss the same to parents. Obviously you may think it's a waste but if people will buy it, why not?

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Parents do need to toughen up, i have lost count of how many times i have seen mummy buying little Jimmy GTA/MW2/what ever in Game stores, i would never even consider letting a 7/8 year old play a GTA game, regardless of weather its with older brothers or not.

 

Again, alot of parents will buy it, because little Jimmy will complain till he gets it, then if its 3£ a month, thats 36£ a year for subscription, 40£ for the game. If my mother bought all my games i might not think tis too bad either but at the end, its a poor show

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I allow my son who is under eighteen to play COD.  However, we did turn it into a type of military history thing, to do together as well.

 

 

He is really up on the history of weapons now, from the early muskets, to the Martini rifle to the AK47, and Mr Browning.  We then had an educational visit to the Royal Armouries and he got a merit in school for his project on the history of firearms and warfare.  He has researched all the major conflicts, English civil war, The Boer war, American war of independance and civil war, WWI and WWII to name a few.

 

The game really got him interested in it, and resulted in some really good quality time together.  Maybe because im a gamer, that played some part in my decision to let him play, not sure?  However, his time is limited no matter what game. His feet are firmly on the ground, we have family in the military so he has no illusions about running off to war either.

 

I do think its more than let play or not let play.  I dont agree with letting them (kids) just have the game, with no supervision though.

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