My X-box has got red ring 3-4 times now and now its failed again, apart from this time my warranty has run out, do the people at microsoft expect me to pay £90 for repair (price i was told over the phone) when i can go out and buy a new one for £133 brand spanking new from a shop? its just stupid. i just fail to see why i should be forced to pay out when one of two or three (if not all) have happened 1: the X-box i own was not made to standerd and thus has got red ring over and over 2: the past repaid work was shoddy and half **** 3: in one of my repairs they may have replaced my x-box and that one was not to standerd (plus if they replace your x-box they should renew your warranty). If any of these things are true as i suspect they are for alot of people with the same problem then Microsoft should be fitting the bill not us. i have owned every game platform that has come out all the way back to the NES and i have never had a problems like this, its not good enough.