NAT Question

So I spent about 3 hours getting my NAT open on my Xbox One to find out it was moderate on Call of Duty: Ghosts. Now, I don't play Ghosts a lot, so it's not much of a concern. But will future games, like Titanfall, have moderate NATs? Or will they be open? 

 

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Last updated July 4, 2018 Views 45 Applies to:

  On the subject of the patch updates, since xmas i had achieved OPEN NAT with the XBO and GHOSTS simultaneously and consistantly for past months, never any change in settings therefore never any changwe in NAT on XBO or GHOSTS but since the 3GB update/patch on the 03/04/14  i can still get OPEN NAT on my BO but never any better than strict on GHOSTS. I started from beginning and cleared/reset router to Factory Defaults and did a power cycle of XBO. So i started ( All of this with a Static or rather reserved IP address through router DCHP) with just UPnP alone, I got OPEN NAT on XBONE but MODERATE  on GHOSTS, i turned off UPnP and tried port forwarding the port numbers i had always achieved OPEN NAT with provided by Activision and BOX LIVE, so with just Port Forwarding, and power cycle, again OPEN NAT on XBONE , MODERATE NAT on GHOSTS !!  Thirdly i tried both together , UPnP and Port Forwarding, which was my successful method and had given me OPEN NAT on both XBONE + GHOSTS since Nov/Dec ! Sadly I again got OPEN NAT on the XBONE but MODERATE NAT on GHOSTS, which i find the strangest part ! these exact settings had always given me OPEN NAT on both Console + Game, without a problem. But since that patch there is no way and i have tried them all, to get GHOSTS back to open well i lie, i'll explain in a mo- Activision insist its nothing to do with them but to me its too big a coincidence. All is well for over 13 weeks, thn minutes after the patch takes hold of the console tha NAT changes from OPEN to MODERATE without any other influencing factors. Hmmm :-/

   Now so people trying to do this are informed i will tell the other stuff i tried, absolutely nothing, just plugged it in to a clean slate, power cycled, factory reset router,  and of course STRICT XBONE and for some reason only MODERATE NAT on GHOSTS, even thought the XBONE was STRICT !! Im not a techie , this is all stuff picked up over the years trying to get my sons XBOX 360 NAT OPEN, i thought i should tell you that in case you think im some lind of tech expert, but i have footered and did this sort of thing lomg enough to have an idea what im doing and talking about !

I tried the last resort, which i have always been advised should be a last resort as it opens up the console to hackers, attackers and Squatters !! :-)  I put the IP address of the XBONE in the DMZ(De-Militarised Zone) of the router, which opens EVERY PORT on the device you put in it, which means it defo should not bu used for pc's etc, anything with sensitive material or things people(hackers) would want !  Now it worked that way, i got OPEN NAT on both XBONE and GHOSTS but has left me feeling exposed, i had been warned that DMZ was a last resort etc and believe that was for a reason, while it was in there my UTorrent stopped working so i checked the UPnp box and Port Forwarded the Utorrent port no, it turns out doing DMZ along with other methods meesses its equilibrium and it doesnt function correct, so after addind the UPnP and Port Forw. i went to STRICT NAT on my BONE and STRICT NAT on GHOSTS.Needless to say i changed it. now im really wanting to just leave mi XBONES IP in the DMZ as it oipens NAT on GHOSTS and XBONE, with UPnP for UTORRENT which works as i tried that last !!, I made a back up of the router settings and have them in case i go back to itbe cause i really want the OPEN NAT on both GHOSTS and BONE, perhaps someone with more knowledge or tech savvie can advise how dangerous it actually is to use DMZ or advise why i get OPEN NAT on my XBONE but MODERATE NAT on GHOSTS (also OPEN NAT on other game and Find matches, head to head and lobbys very easily in FIFA14)  As it stands i have reverted back to UPnP and Port Forwarding wshich gets me OPEN NAT on XBONE and other games but MODERATE NAT on GHOSTS, If i find a defo answer about why DMZ is safe i will use it to achieve the desired OPEN NAT on both XBONE and GHOSTS !!

    SO..... XBOX, any news on this ?? Any contact from Inferior Ward, sorry, sorry, Infinity Ward or Activision about causes- ("It wasnt me")  Fixes- ("We will have a look but as we dont think it was any of the software in our patch, we really cant seem to think of a fix in the near future, give us some time to have a look at it ok ? Thats great, Cheers ")  Mibbe you could mention that ALL was FINE with 90% peoples NAT etc before the patch and now maybe 9% have a working OPEN NAT etc, even PC repair men, Reworkers, Programmers at my college and even Electrical engineers i know at IBM are havin trouble with this ! (Obviously on their off time ! )

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Titanfall runs on MS Servers for xbox one - there are no xbo one as host so no NAT Problems will be there. All games running on MS Servers don´t have Problems with NAT.

Forza5 and Titanfall runs on MS Servers.

I will only buy games who runs on MS Servers because of terrible connection like in Call of Duty or FIFA and so on.

I don´t know why they don´t use the MS Servers - it´s so much better for gaming.

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I have Open Nat on Assassins Creed Black Flag, and moderate on Ghosts. That's all I can check right now because I don't know how to check the NAT on Battlefield 4..

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Maybe its just some type of glitch with Ghosts and your Nat is open since the console shows as open. I would believe what the consoles says over the game. Try a full power cycle of the console and see what happens.

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All Valid points from you all above and agree with most of em but the thing people just aint getting from me or Infinity Ward or Activision are choosin tio ignore is-

FOR 3 MONTH SINCE SANTA CAME, AFTER UPNP + PORT FORWARDING ON MY ROUTER I CONSISTENTLY , EVERY DAY, WITHOUT FAIL HAD OPEN NAT ON BOTH XBONE AND GOSTS !!! EVERY DAMN DAY, WITHOUT A PROB !!

    Then on 03/04/14 after the 3GB patch for GHOSTS from Infinity Ward or Activision, whoever! The menus improved, the challenges were all open at once and you could keep track of your weapon camo progress, also your NAT had went from OPEN to MODERATE !!!         YEESSSS !!!! (Sarcastically !!)

   I have contacted support, Twitter support, Infinity Ward Support and InfinityWard Twitter support, anyone , any support u can think of ive forum'd, phoned, emailed and even smoke signalled !  They all have the same great advice- Reboot your Router or XBO, Power Cycle your Router or XBO, Check the ports u are forwarding are correct ports !! BTW- THE PORTS I WAS FORWARDING WERE FROM THE ACTIVISION-HOW TO GET OPEN NAT page-community.callofduty.com/.../200828342

Some of the support staff do they really Smart thing and refer me to someone else cos they dont have a clue !!

  What is so hard trying to get them to understand im absolutely positive im doing it right, i had 3 month of OPEN NAT on ALL games, OPEN NAT on my XBONE and OPEN NAT on GHOSTS, only after the patch on 03/04 did i lose OPEN NAT, someone at XBOX must be i touch with them by now cos i know im not the only person, im fact im one of a very lage amount of people it happened to, as well as on the 22 feb it happened after  a patch in EU to Italy, Spain, France etc and they all lost OPEN NAT and went to MODERATE NAT.

 As asked, has XBOX been in touch trying to get this sorted, could you imagine this stupid fkin patch did something to balls up TITANFALL's release ?  Then i dare say all would be done to get it sorted but us mugs have already bought GHOSTS and quite a lot of the micro purchases so no need to push the boat out trying to fix it.

   I'm so *** off at the fact Activision or Infinity Ward insist their patch didnt cause this when for me and so many others it was the onkly change to our set up !! No Router Settings Changed, No XBONE Console settings Changed, just the 3GB patch and that was it, MODERATE NAT !! But STill They Say " wasnt us !! i Have tried everything to get GHOSTS Open again, UPnpP itself, PORT FORWARDING itself, UPnP +PORT FORWARDING Together, All of which bring a combination of OPEN NAT on XBONE /MODERATE or STRICT on GHOSTS, MODERATE on XBONE and MODERATEW or STRICT ON GHOSTS, OPEN NAT on XBONE STREICT on GHOSTS, or i tried resetting the router and doing absolutely nothing, for that i got STRICT MODERATE on XBONE and STRICT MODERATE on GHOSTS, ater all those months of OPEN NAT on both XBONE and GHOSTS !! Tell me again how it wasnt your patch Infinity Ward ?????  

Please get back to me XBOX, IW, ACTIVISION, other Gamers, Anyone when you know whats wrong ior have a fix !!   BB

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The latest patch for COD Ghosts seems to have broken the NAT somehow.

Before the update you could get an open NAT by forwarding port 3075.

But now it's impossible.

I'm seriously fed up with the xbox ones network issues.

First of all there is the fact that the xbox ones UPnP support is broken. It's not fully compatible with most brands of router.

And it also alienates a large portion of the UK population by not being compatible with the BT Homehubs 4's and 5's

And to make matter worse the last update for GHosts has made it impossible to get an open NAT in that game.

Either the patch changed what port is required for the game or the game is just broken.

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Just been experimenting and forwarded port 3076 and now the NAT in Ghosts is open.

So anyone with a moderate NAT in ghosts try forwarding port 3076 as well as port 3075 to see if the NAT opens.

It seems that the last patch for Ghosts might has changed the required port to 3076

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@Malacath: This is not an Issue with xbox one. It´s an Issue withe the game Call of Duty. If they would treat Customers like Customers they would run the game sessions on MS Servers, On MS Servers (with xbox one) there are NO NAT Issues. Games like Forza and Titanfall run on MS Servers. The game experience is much better than all those p2p connection who have to deal with NAT - Firewall and so on.

Games like Call of Duty who sells so much - it´s a shame that there are no Servers even if Microsoft has Servers to use.

In my opinion MS is going the right way with MS Servers and Cloud computing. The companies who only wants your Money like Activision and Infinity Ward are to blame - they DON`T want to have that YOU (customer) get a good online experience. This is why they use p2p - it´s cheap. The same is with EA and FIFA.

The only thing you can do is: Buy only games who support dedicated Servers like Forza and Titanfall.

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