How to Install Devices & Software from Older Windows OS's on Newer Windows OS's

How to Install Devices & Software from Older Windows OS's on Newer Windows OS's

It amazes me that people all over the web that are suppose to be techy and all, do not know the basics of the Windows Operating Systems.

Let me explain one simple fact. Windows Operating Systems are backward compatible with devices and software. Such as Programs, Printers/Scanners and about every other device or software program there is.

So I will explain to you how to install your software or devices that you had on any previous Windows OS versions to the newest Windows OS version you now have.

First, I will also explain about your System hardware on your PC's/Laptops. When you purchase a PC/Laptop, it comes with the current Windows OS or you purchase one and install. The Manufacturers create drivers and software for that PC/Laptop for all the hardware in your PC/Laptop for that current Windows Version.

Now when Microsoft comes out with a newer Operating System, there are very few manufacturers that will create new drivers/software for the new operating system for all the hardware inside your PC/Laptop.

So this is what happens, Microsoft develops new generic drivers for all the hardware in your PC/Laptop. If they did not do this, then Windows would not install and would crash or possibly ruin your system. This is how it is able to install and run correctly.

Now if the Manufacturers do develop drivers/software for a newer OS version, then Microsoft may have them on the install media or use Windows Update while installing the OS or after the installation to install the correct drivers. Or they will install their generic drivers and then you can go to the OEM's website and download and install their OEM drivers/software for the current OS.

Now, as for all other devices and software/programs, since Windows XP, you can install devices and software/programs by using the "COMPATIBILITY MODE". Windows is backward compatible. I have programs, printers and devices all the way back from XP that install and run properly on Vista, 7, 8 and now 10. I have did this for 15 years on thousands of PC's/Laptops with about a 98% success rate. This is what Compatibility Mode is for.

So this is how to do it. This is for first time installs, or installs that fail after doing an upgrade to a newer Operating System or after a new service pack or creators updates.

The first thing to do is get your CD's or download the software/drivers for the specific task. Then note which OS that the drivers/software was developed for.

Note: Most all programs and devices are 32 bit installations (x86). But some devices such as printers/scanners will have software and drivers for both 32 bit and 64 bit Operating Systems. So make sure you check first and use or get the correct installer package. If the OEM only offers one package, it will most likely work as it is probably 32 bit and might install on 64 bit OS. Or the CD or installer file has both versions in it. You can install most all software and drivers for 32 bit on a 64 bit OS. But you can not install 64 bit software on a 32 bit OS.

Here is an Example to install older software/drivers and devices on newer OS:

**NOTE: Detailed step by step procedure with photos towards bottom of article:

Example: Installing on Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803

Older Lexmark x2480 Printer/Scanner with Windows Vista x64 Drivers/Software

Always disconnect any device first.

Go to: Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Programs and Features.

Uninstall the software for your devices or programs. "If it is already installed".

Restart PC/Laptop.

Then you should now know what Windows OS Version the CD or Stand Alone Installer File is for.

** If it is a CD/DVD, right click on the CD/DVD Drive and select>> Open Folder

Locate the Setup.exe file or on your Stand Alone Setup.exe Installer package file.

Now right click on the Setup.exe file.

In the menu, Select>>Troubleshoot Compatibility (This opens The Wizard for the install)

Select the 2nd (bottom selection)

Select this ran on earlier version of windows. (Top Box)

Then select in the menu>>The OS Version of the Installer package - XP, Vista, 7, or 8

Then select "TEST". This will open the installer and install it.

Follow the installation instructions and close out and finish the install

Then test the printer with a test page and a scan. (For Printers/Scanners)

If all good, (And it should be)

Then on the install wizard, Select>>Next and Select Save Settings.

Restart PC/Laptop

Also for Wireless Printers, check in the Networks Wireless Discovery List (SSID) through the Network Icon in Taskbar Tray (Left Click on it), or in Settings>>Network & Internet, and enter the encryption key or Pin#/Passcode (WPS) to get connected.

If it is not listed, then use the "Add a Printer" to try and get connected.

if it is not discovered on a PC, Then it may be because of the issue in v1803. Then try creating a shortcut using \\Printer Share Name or \\IP Address and/or Port to connect to it.

Also: You Must have SSID set to ON in your Modem/Router or Router Settings to be discovered to connect to it.

More Examples:

Windows Movie Maker 2012 Vista Version - Installed on Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803

Windows Photo Gallery 2012 Vista Version - Installed on Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803

Microsoft Office 2007 - Installed on Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803

Microsoft Works 9 2007 - Installed on Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803

I could show 100 more older devices and programs installed.

This is what compatibility mode is for and has been for since the first Versions of Windows OS's. I have got 99.9% of devices or programs to install and run correctly on every operating system using compatibility mode.

Do not listen to anyone telling you that you can not install older devices and software. I see MODS here and techy people everywhere that does not even know this simple basic fact and will feed you nonsense and tell you to purchase a newer device or software or roll back your operating system. That would be the last resort to anyone with any knowledge and experience.

I have so many programs and devices all the way back to XP that has been installed on every OS since XP and they all ran fine. I have worked on over 4000+ PC's and was successful installing older devices and software on all of them.

Note: Some programs that change the Windows Interface or UI Shell will most likely have to be designed for that specific OS.

NOTE: PC's/Laptops with the newer USB 3.1 & 3.2 Type C Ports may not be backward compatible with some USB 3.0 and 2.0 devices. Even if you use a conversion adapter or cable.

Detailed steps for installing in compatibility mode:

Example installing on Windows 10 with windows 8 software and drivers.Always disconnect any device and uninstall any software before reinstalling. 

Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Programs and Features

Restart PC

Right click on the Install file and select TROUBLESHOOT COMPATIBILITY. (Usually is a Setup.exe or ??????.exe).

Select Troubleshoot program

Select TOP BOX>> This program worked on ……. and select NEXT

Select the Windows OS the software and drivers are for and Select NEXT. (Windows 8 shown in this example).

Now select TEST THE PROGRAM

Now the install Wizard opens up to install the program. (SEE THE INSTALLER APP IN MY SAMPLE PHOTO).

Select NEXT or whatever the installer tells you to do. Install the Software and then close out this install wizard.

(PRINTERS/SCANNERS: And probably do a print test page and scan as it usually asks you to do).

And then close out this install wizard.

Now click on NEXT on the Compatibility Wizard

Now select YES SAVE THESE SETTINGS and close out the compatibility wizard or it closes on its own.

Now Restart PC

Note: For Printers/Scanners:

After initial setup, you can now go to:

Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Devices and Printers

on your other PC's and select to add a printer.

It will scan and find the printer.

Then it should install the driver and you are all good to go.

If it can not find a driver, look in the list for a similar driver or use the CD or the Temp folder usually located in C:\ on the main PC the printer was installed on and locate the driver and copy the driver from main PC Temp folder to other PC's public folder to install the needed driver.

For wireless, you can connect to the printer by the network icon in taskbar tray. Find it in the discovered list, enter the encryption key and select to auto connect.

(WPS) uses a PIN# that is located on bottom of Modem/Router or Router.

Scanner Issues:

If your Printer/Scanner is installed and your Printer works but your scanner does not by the software provided or manually on the scanner, then try this.

Go to Control Panel>>Devices and Printers

Right click on the printer

There should be scan properties, scan profiles and scan

Check all those out and see if you can get it working or scan from there.

You can also right click on printer and select Open to access printer and scanner utilities.

You can also Right click on Printer and create a shortcut to your desktop and access the scan features mentioned above for convenience.

You can also select to ADD A DEVICE and also try and Browse to locate the scanner drivers.

Try the C:\Windows\twain_32 or C:\Windows\System32 locations.

Also, you should use your software for scanning. Usually you have programs in the Start Menu>>Apps or Programs with all your Printer and scanning software. If you can not scan by pressing buttons on the scanner, then use your software.

If your printer says it is offline or other problems:

Check the 'Offline' Setting:

On Windows computers, there is a setting called Use Printer Offline. If this settings is enabled that would cause your computer to think it is disconnected, even though it is connected and ready to work. To verify that your computer is not enabling the Use Printer Offline setting, follow this below.

Go to Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Devices and Printers

Right click on your Printer

Left click on See What's Printing

At the top of this window you will see Printer-Document-View

Left click on the Printer tab

Make sure that "Use Printer Offline" is not checked. If it is, click on "Use Printer Offline" and this (Will Uncheck It) and will disable it.

Your printer should now work.

Go to Control Panel>>Devices and Printers

You can also right click on printer and select Open to access printer and scanner utilities.

You can also check your Printer property settings and drivers here.

Restart PC

Printer Offline or error code 0x000007D1 or Invalid print driver:

This works for some people:

Go to C:\Windows

Right Click on >> Regedit.exe

Run as Administrator

View Tab >>Address Bar

Copy and paste the following in to address bar and press enter.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Print

If the following key exists >> PostSPUpgrade

Right click on it and select>> DELETE

Close Registry Editor

Restart PC

Log on PC and Open Task Manager>>Services>>More Services

And make sure Spool or Spooler service is running.

Firmware:

Your Printer/Scanner might have a firmware update for it that could help to fix an issue with them not working.

The firmware is not the drivers and software for your PC. It is for the Printer/Scanner itself.

Be careful installing the update and follow any OEM's steps properly.

If you can not install or uninstall for any reasons, Then follow this below:


Unplug Printer USB or disconnect any Wireless Connections.

Uninstall any Printer software if you can.

Restart PC


Go to:
Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Administrative Tools\Services
And stop Print Spooler or Spooler Service.


Go to:

C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\x64

And Delete everything inside it.


Go to:

C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\W32X86\3

And Delete everything inside it.

**Note: if it is not Folder 3 and is Folder 4, then Delete everything inside of 4.

Start the Spooler Service (Running)

Restart PC

ALWAYS install using the driver and software for the printer/scanner or for any device or software, that is for the Windows Operating System/Platform it is designed for by using Compatibility Mode to install.

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Seahawk, greets.

Nice text, worth saving to my printer. ( it is tremendously along my line of thought ).

I will print it and copy it to some of those that I also help here, unless you tell me that it is "copyrighted".

Be good. JP.

pass the web link along to share to help others. I do not have a problem with sharing the weblink for online help or print for local friends and family or maybe your business customers.

Seahawk, not to worry. I share your spirit, I have never asked for a tupence for helping brothers and sisters. Mainly, I never take credit for someone else brain wave.  Have a gorgeous day. JP.

Thank you for your comprehensive reply.

For me the trick after having a network printer driver "removed during a MS upgrade" is to unplug it from the router and first connect that printer to each pc in the the network as a local printer.

Followed all the steps. Still won't install some of my old programs. Most that I did get installed won't open or run poorly with lock ups.  One crashed me laptop. Thanks a lot.

Followed all the steps. Still won't install some of my old programs. Most that I did get installed won't open or run poorly with lock ups.  One crashed me laptop. Thanks a lot.

I can explain why you're having trouble with your old programs. It's a little technical, but not hard to understand. The same explanation applies to old hardware.

Software developers and hardware manufacturers decide which versions of Windows they will support. The word 'support' in this context means:

  • the developer/manufacturer will test their product to see if it works properly;
  • if the product doesn't work properly as is, they will modify it to keep it working properly;
  • they will update their documentation to include whatever modifications that were made; and
  • they will train their customer service representatives in the modifications so that the reps, in turn, will be able to help the developer's/manufacturer's customers

All that taken together is what we mean when we say that a software developer or hardware manufacturer 'supports' any given version of Windows. If all that effort sounds expensive, it can be. There's a cost to supporting successive versions of Windows.

Clearly, only the software developer or hardware manufacturer can provide this support. Microsoft can't do it, because:

  1. Microsoft can't possibly be aware of the tens of thousands (probably more) of software applications and hardware devices that are in use all around the world - but let's say, for the sake of argument, that they could.
  2. Microsoft doesn't have detailed knowledge of how these programs and devices work, because Microsoft didn't create them - but let's say, for the sake of argument, that Microsoft was somehow able to lay their hands on this information.
  3. This knowledge belongs to the developer or manufacturer; it's their intellectual property and Microsoft has no legal right to modify it.

You can be sure that Microsoft wishes that every software program and hardware device in the world would work perfectly with Windows 10, because it's in their interest to have it that way. To that end, Microsoft makes available to developers and manufacturers detailed information about upcoming changes to Windows.

Nevertheless, Microsoft can't force a developer or a manufacturer to keep on supporting their products as Windows changes. That's a decision only the developer or manufacturer can make, and they usually make their decision based on - you guessed it - money. Developers and manufacturers aren't going to incur the costs of continued support once a product isn't bringing in enough money (or any money.) That's why older programs and hardware eventually lose support.

Even though Microsoft can't force developers and manufacturers to keep on supporting a product, Microsoft does have a neat trick up its sleeve: compatibility mode.

Even without support, a software program (and a hardware device) might keep on functioning perfectly well for quite a long time - even for years - as long as the software code for the program (or the driver, in the case of hardware) isn't affected by changes to Windows. I've got some very old hardware in my computer that lost support years ago, yet it works very well in Windows 10. (Shhh ... don't tell anybody.)

Knowing this, Microsoft makes it possible to 'persuade' a program (in your case) that it's actually being installed in an older version of Windows. That's necessary because one of the first things an installer does is to check whether it's being installed in a supported version of Windows. That's known as the compatibility check. Installing in compatibility mode makes the installer 'think' it's being installed in an older version of Windows.

Compatibility mode can get your program installed in Windows 10, but that's no guarantee that it will actually work properly, or at all, in Windows 10. If the program's developer isn't supporting the program in Windows 10, it may not work. And the longer a program has been unsupported, the less likely it is to work in a new operating system. It might work perfectly well, or it might work 'sort of' well, or it might not work at all.

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LOL Hilarious, nobody else has any problems. I sure never have on Vista, 7, 8 or 10. Mine and everyone else PC's I set up work fine.

I can assume I know why they will not work. and since Vista on all OS's, I have only failed on 1000's of PC;s installing any older software and devices.

HMMMMM

NONSENSE. Hilarious. Install in compatibility mode does not cause these problems. It is because your PC is …. and I can only imagine.

You trying to install windows 95 programs, NOT.

The …. on here, I swear.

I only tried to install older software that was xp or 7 compatible.  i didn't see any compatibility options for stuff older than that, All of my older software worked on an xp computer. If this is the kind of help you give I think microsoft is in trouble.

Just wow.

You should definitely have no problems with any 7 software. Maybe a handful of XP software. And no, probably a 3% chance of installing anything older than that (XP). I do not recommend any prior to XP.

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