Automatically install updates for WIndows Defender on Windows 8 but with manual WIndows Updates

I do not want to install WIndows updates automatically, for good reason.  But I do want to install Windows Defender updates automatically.  This used to be possible in previous versions of Windows but I can't figure out how to have Windows Defender auto update in Windows 8 without changing my overall Windows update settings.

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Hi _rw,

 

Thank you for posting in the Microsoft Community.

 

Windows Defender and Windows Update in Windows 8 both depend on the Windows Updates services. So it is not possible to set only Windows Defender to perform automatic updates.

You need to try changing the Windows updates settings to notify for Windows updates and then try to download the same.

Here are some articles which you provides you information on how Windows Defender and Windows Update work:

Protect your PC

Keep your PC up to date with Windows Update

Windows automatic updating: Frequently asked questions

 

In case you need further assistance please feel free to contact us.

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Well that is silly design.  It may be good for your normal home users but I find it troublesome for myself.

I guess I will just turn it off and go with another solution.  Disappointing.

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<EDIT>
The statements between the two lines below are INCORRECT!
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If all were well with your computer, Windows Defender should auto-update itself roughly once-a-day even if Automatic Updates is disabled (turned off).

 

Defender's older stepbrothers Microsoft Security Essentials & Windows Defender (in Win7 & earlier) worked the same way. In Win8, Defender's a rebadged version of Microsoft Security Essentials. [Yes, it's very confusing!]

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The statements between the two lines above are INCORRECT!
</EDIT>

 

Defender auto-updates itself via the Windows Update "tunnel" but technically not via Automatic Updates.

 

You will find support for Windows Defender on a Win8 computer in this forum => http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-security

 

 

[Last Revised (as marked) - 24 November 2012, 20:22 UTC]

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"If all were well with your computer" meaning "If your computer was runnning Windows 7"?

I just can't get this to work and I find it very annoying. It works fine when "install updates automatically is selected" but if "Check for updates but let med choose..." is selected the definitions never get updated.

Broken design.

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[1] If all were well with your computer, Windows Defender should auto-update itself roughly once-a-day even if Automatic Updates is disabled (turned off).

[2] Defender's older stepbrothers Microsoft Security Essentials & Windows Defender (in Win7 & earlier) worked the same way...

It's time to eat crow.

 

A1. Turns out, my statement was incorrect. Testing confirms that Defender-in-Win8 will only auto-update itself if:

 

        (a) Automatic Updates is enabled (turned-on); and...

 

        (b) AU is set to the default Automatic configuration.

 

IOW if AU is set to the the Download updates but let me choose... option, Defender will not auto-update.

 

Furthermore & contrary to [third-party] Support Engineer Praseetha K Nair's statement above, testing confirms that Defender will not auto-update even if the Check for updates but let me choose... option is selected!

 

A2. This statement was also incorrect. Defender-in-Win8's auto-updating behavior is not the same as MSE's or Windows Defender's in Win7, Vista & WinXP.

 

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I decided to just create a scheduled task for this.  It gets the job done and updates the definitions on Windows 8.

See the link below for additional details:
http://omnidirecttech.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/windows-defender-automatic-definition-updates-in-windows-8/


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I decided to just create a scheduled task for this.  It gets the job done and updates the definitions on Windows 8.

See the link below for additional details:
http://omnidirecttech.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/windows-defender-automatic-definition-updates-in-windows-8/


Thanks for the link, works great

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A bit related, but if rebooting is the good reason, I personnaly use this setting : 
- Auto download but manual install

This way, minor updates like windows defender definition (but not only, can be windows updates) are silently installed while updates requiring reboot need my approbation.

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http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd939844(v=ws.10).aspx concerns WSUS, not Windows Update, and does not Apply To Windows 8.

 

Related anyway: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2563254

 

Do you know what approbation means? <wink>

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Win8 is maybe not concerned, but actually it works well on Win8 ; purpose of this post is mainly for people who might want to do the same (just not being annoyed by reboot needed updates ; and keep using WU for this), because there's not so much informations about this :(
Edit : actually it is listed in gpedit.msc (Windows Components/Windows Update), the link was to give some explanation, because I coulnd't find a Win7/Win8 WU documentation about this (is there one somewhere at least ?).

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