What does "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" do?

I have the option "Download updates but let me choose whether to install them" check so that updates are downloaded when I have my computer on. I find that if I have the "Never check for updates" option checked and I do a check manually it takes forever. Now I find that I am getting a yellow shield on my shut down button which says that downloaded updates will be installed before shutdown. I now do not have a choice of which downloaded updates to install as there does not seem to be a way of stopping the install. I would like to check each number before installing.

In a forum post someone has mentioned that if you uncheck "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" (still have "Download updates but let me choose whether to install them" checked) you will only get security updates downloaded with the yellow warning on the shut down button and no other updates? Is this correct? I am assuming in this case you will have to do a manual check for all other updates? This is really not what I want.

Thank you,

     TomS  

 
 

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Never is the right setting if you want to prevent Windows 10 incursion.  The setting you are trying will allow Microsoft to download an update once the computer is up and running.  If that update is pre-checked (marked important), AND you do not check Windows Update and uncheck it BEFORE shut down, it will install on shutdown.  That is what the yellow exclamation point on the shut down button is telling you.

I will offer some very specific advice on how to prevent Windows 10.  It works, I know because I have used it successfully on my 150 client computers.

Prevent Windows 10

 

January 29, 2016

Microsoft has turned a decades-long respected process — Windows Update — into a malware distribution system.  It is for all intents and purposes forcing innocent and content Windows 7 computer users into “upgrading” to its new Windows 10 version.  It promises to allow return to Windows 7 within 30 days.  That return process is flawed and leaves your computer virtually unusable and requires re-installation of Windows 7.  For some owners without a re-usable Microsoft product key or a factory restore partition on their computers, it results in a useless thing that used to be a computer.

Windows 10 is a completely new and very different Windows.  Nothing like anything you have used before.

  1. It is primarily an advertising/sales vehicle.  That’s the keen motivation and reason it is free.
  2. By adopting Windows 10, you sacrifice any privacy — essentially, anything on your computer is Microsoft’s and its partner’s to use as they see fit.
  3. Windows Update becomes non-optional.  You, as owner of your system no longer have control over what happens to your computer.  Microsoft will re-make Windows (on your computer) into what serves its purposes without asking your permission or opinion.
  4. Windows 10 as a system is still full of un-fulfilled promises and bugs.  Many of your programs will not run on Windows 10.  In fact, the “upgrade” process removes some.

So, if you like Windows 7, and most do very much so, I advise you to reject Windows 10 for the foreseeable future.  Be advised that Microsoft has committed to support Windows 7 until at least January, 2020.  Most of your current computers will last that long.

You must adopt a protective stance to prevent your Windows 7 system from becoming something you do not want.

I advise my clients to change the Windows Update Setting to Never check for updates.  Once a month, on the 2nd Tuesday, they will get an email from me advising to manually start WU and then hide every update except for ones specifically labeled Security.  In other words, only security updates will be applied.  In all of 2015, not a single update that was not security, was something that improved Windows 7.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3016033/microsoft-windows/enough-already-microsoft-pushes-windows-nagware-patch-kb-3035583-for-sixth-time.html

Some may scoff at this idea.  Well they are incorrect.  Never means you are never giving Microsoft a chance to decide what you download and install.  It does NOT mean you will never update.  The difference is that now you take control and the responsibility of updating of Windows and Office.

Some may believe that Microsoft would not do such a stupid thing.

You must read Woody Leonhard (one of the most respected writers in the trade) 

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2983777/microsoft-windows/how-to-clean-the-windows-10-crapware-off-your-windows-7-or-81-pc.html?nsdr=true Woody calls the Windows 10 download “crapware.” 

Woody’s advice is that if you have Windows 7, keep it, you are better off by far.

If you see the Windows flag on the bottom right of your screen, chances are pretty high, your computer already has the Win10 files. Even if you do not, it may be on your computer shortly anyway.  Here are instructions on how to rid yourself of it:

First download and run GWX Control panel.  A free app:  http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2979572/microsoft-windows/gwx-stopper-an-easy-way-to-permanently-delete-get-windows-10-nagware-in-windows-7-and-81.html

It will allow you to prevent any future operating system upgrades and delete downloaded Win10 files, but it will not remove any of Microsoft’s installed or attempts to install spyware.

This process works, but it only works if you do all the steps and do them in order.

  1. Take Windows Update off automatic — Never check for updates
  2. Windows Update, Installed updates, WAIT a long time till you see the green bar complete its long trip to the right
  3. Now, search for each of the listed updates, uninstall them.  You must wait until the list is re-created each time.
  4. If there are others you want to uninstall, click Later
  5. Then, clear the search box and after the list is again displayed, enter another KB number.
  6. Restart the PC.  It may take a long time to process this.

If you choose “check for updates, but let me choose whether to download and install them”, Microsoft will download “important” updates like KB3035583 to your computer.  It will be pre-checked — selected.  Unless you check Windows Update (WU) and discover this BEFORE you shut down, it will install it during the shut-down process.   Hiding accomplishes nothing.

This is more than annoying.  It goes way beyond that.  It is underhanded, dishonest and just plain wrong for Microsoft to do this.  There is no offer to accept or refuse.  There is no informed consent.  There is not even an idea of what it is your getting and what the result is if you change your mind.

List of updates that if already installed should be removed:

KB3035583
KB2952664
KB2977759
KB3021917
KB3075249
KB3080149
KB3083710
KB3083324
KB3090045
KB3112343
KB3123862
KB3022345
KB3068708

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I have found that using the setting "Download but let me choose to install" does not prevent Microsoft from installing the update. I find the yellow warning on the shut down button so I go back to Windows Update and uncheck or hide the prechecked updates, then go back to shut down. I click on shut down and Microsoft still installs the updates.

You do not have a choice as the option states.

 

I am aware of most of what you posted and I did install the GWX Control Panel as you suggested but I still have the "Download but let me choose" option checked. I did this because it seems to take DAYS when I run a manual check for updates.

What do you think?

TomS

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You will not solve this problem unless you put the setting at NEVER.

You need not even check for updates more often than once a month.

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How can I determine whether any of these updates are installed?

The list is very long. I don't look forward to having to read every line looking for the updates that should be removed.

Or is this no longer a problem, now that Win 10 is no longer "free"?

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Read the posting I already posted in this thread.

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