Windows Update causes random bluescreen with Internet Explorer 11, KB2670838, KB2834140 and KB2836502 on Sony VPCCB2C5E with hybrid graphics

Hello,

 

Dear Harkanwar

 

Thank you very much for your response.

 

I have had no problems removing IE11 and KB2670838, KB2834140 and KB2836502 (see my last para in the OP). I already have the latest graphics drivers available for Windows 7 from Sony installed on my laptop.

 

The issue is that KB2834140 and KB2836502 do not fix the issue introduced by the platform update KB2670838 on the VPCCB2C5E with the not very late 'latest' graphics drivers issued by Sony. This means that I am stuck with IE9 and a hardware / OS combination that Sony, AMD and Microsoft appear to have abandoned.

 

As there has been deafening silience on the issue from both Sony and AMD, I assume that they think this is an issue that Microsoft has created in its implementation of IE10 and 11 on Windows 7. If that is the case I am not sure how else I can encourage Microsoft to address the issue other than posting here.

 

I, also, hoped that perhaps I had missed something but your response suggests that I haven't and there is nothing I can do other than hope that somebody at Microsoft reads this and the error reporting from my machine.

 

Thanks

 

Francis

Hi,

 

Let us try to upgrade back to IE 11 and install the recommended updates and check. If you still receive BSOD error I would recommend you to upload the minidump files in response to my private message. This will help us to access the issue better.

 

Thank you!

 

Hi Francis,

 

After going through the dump files that you have uploaded. The issue is caused due to igdpmd64.sys.

 

Some portable computers that have a combination of Intel and AMD video cards in a hybrid configuration have drivers that are incompatible with this platform update for Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1.

 

igdpmd64.sys is the Intel Graphics Kernel Mode Driver. I would recommend you to uninstall the Intel drivers from the device manager and reinstall them back from the manufactures website.

Dear Wasim

Thank you very much for taking the trouble to analyse the dump files. I am afraid that your conclusion doesn't surprise me as this is documented in KB2670838.

Here is an extract relating to the documented 'Incompatibility issues with certain computers that have hybrid video cards' which identifies my device as having no compatible drivers:

Note For computers that are marked as "None" in the latest compatible drivers, Microsoft is currently working with AMD to find the cause of the problem and determine the appropriate fix. If you have installed the platform update for Windows 7 on this computer and you experience the incompatibility issue, we recommend that you uninstall update 2670838 temporarily.

To uninstall update 2670838, follow these steps:

etc.......

The reason I have started this thread is that IE11 was pushed to my laptop by Windows Update along with the other updates which presumably were intended to fix the issue. This combination of 'fixes' clearly does not work on my Sony VPCCB2C5E.

I do not believe there is a solution to the issue by uninstalling the Intel driver and reinstalling a 'native' version owing to the hybrid configuration. If this was the case, I am sure someone would have documented it before now - this issue has been running since IE10 was released after all.

The further frustration is that it is not clear who 'owns' this issue and what if anything they are doing about it. KB2670838 suggest that Microsoft is working with AMD to resolve it but my experience of applying the recent updates is that further work is required.

Could I ask you please to forward this issue to whoever is responsible in Microsoft and if possible report back here on whether there is likely to be a resolution? It appears to me that Microsoft, AMD and Sony have just abandoned the problem (and their customers). It would also be helpful if Windows Update did not push incompatible updates.

What do you recommend as the most elegant method of reversing to the stable configuration with IE9 - system restore or uninstalling the updates by the way?

Kind regards

Francis, I will make sure that the feedback is cascaded to the right department.

 

For reverting to the stable configuration I would recommend you to uninstall IE updates from the control panel and hide the updates, otherwise if you have Windows Updates settings set to automatic they will again install automatically.

 

-Regards

My First post ever to MS in 16 years of giving IT support. (Sorry if it's long)

Hi I have the exact same issue regarding a Lenovo G570 machine with Hybrid ATI & Intel graphics (so you can add it to the list). I have unfortunately updated the bios to the latest version and now cant set the GPU to run as ATI only to prevent the issue. I only have the option in bios to "downgrade" to Intel GPU usage only. My bad for not making a bios backup and Lenovo's bad for not having previous versions of bios on support site. This renders the purpose of buying a notebook with on-board ATI GPU useless!!!

Here is my question is it possible to do some registry edit or something to prevent update KB2670838 from installing. I remove it and I know IE 10 also uses it but don't really care I will settle for Chrome or Firefox since MS has recently gone from a Brand I would pay for to a brand I try to replace where ever I can. ( IE 11 is still a big mess, so much for your updates!!!) Back to the question... I can't find any way or maybe I am missing it somewhere that I can prevent the update from installing like in the good old days without preventing other updates to install (win 7 Home basic 64 bit). Unless I have my client (Barely a user) manually install updates. That will result in a GIANT mess and billing on my side that my client will not be happy about.

Please help and please get some people in charge that starts to care about their market. I am all for Office 365 and understand software as a service but seriously no more SBS Server anymore?! MS product pricing through the roof?! Your "Valued" clients being forced to be your beta testers?! No wonder my business clients are considering Piracy or Linux as an alternative...

Please advise...

I have a Dell with the same AMD GRAPHICS DRIVERS.....had the same problem.  Here is what the result of long days trying here...

1. I paid Microsoft $149.00 for a year of support

2. windows was uninstalled and reinstalled to get all the updates in correct order

3. AMD was changed to (AMD Radeon 7450) and Intel (R) HD Graphics

       (please note:  this change on Graphics was done by hardware teck who finally knew what to do and

         worked for 2 months now. )  No there still seems to be no work around other than this.

4.  I can now upgrade to IE 11 without the problem but there are still residual problems with IE.

DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL HELP ANYONE but after seeing all the problems still there it might.  When the updates to 10 and 11 IE make your machine crash most assuredly you have left something out that is not being picked up on updates.

I am totally convinced that Microsft does not care about issue such as this. We have had 6 desktop systems with Windows 7 out of the blue (pun intended) start to have random BSOD. Telling your customers to just restore an image or uninstall updates is not a solution. As everybody knows, having these updates are critical due to the insecurity of windows in general. It is a great waste of time and huge inconvenience, not to mention disruptive to the end user which directly affects productivity to have to wipe and restore. MS is dropping the ball, big time. No wonder so many are switching to OSX. 

That is ever so true and I could not have said it better myself.. I have the same issue. KB2670838 is creating havoc in my Thinkpad Edge E535 and in my HP Pavillion, both being with AMD processors.. each time i remove KB2670838 , it also remove my IE and often come up also with the blue screen of death.. charming.. I ve tried almost everything possible to sort that issue, even turning windows updates off, but forget it... each time I update my system manually, and check out which updates are there.. I notice that KB2670838 was installed again without me being aware of it.. and there again, creating havoc in my laptops

 Surely microsoft is aware of that, but like you say, why should they care.... ? they have loads of customers, and could not care less about the ones that have problems because of some updates incompability with AMD processors.

I m so frustrated and fed up with this.. this is unbelievable.. I ve decided, I m switching onto  Mac.. Just ordered one.... and once i ve trasferred my files onto an external HD, I ll put both my laptops onto factory setting and out for sake on E bay..and then, i ll give mocrosoft a well deserved 2 fingers up salute. !