Stuttering on latest windows version, Ryzen 5 2600 new build

I just built my new PC and I'm facing this terrible stuttering, I have to clean my cached memory with the Wagnard fix 



If I don't use that, I can't play anything, I made a video:


Specs:

Ryzen 5 2600 @4ghz / 1.3v
DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport AT (BLS8G4D30CESTK) 8gbx2 XMP 3066mhz
Asus Rog B450-F Gaming
EVGA RTX 2070 FTW3
SSD Samsung Evo 860 1TB
Corsair RM 650x

Any ideas? I'm using latest drivers, bios and windows update, already tried:

Disabling HPET, dynamic tick, high power plan, performance plan on nvidia control panel, memtest86 0 errors, prime95 0 errors.

I'd really appreciate any help

 

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Hey Carlos. I'm Greg, an installation specialist and 9 year Windows MVP here to help you.

You've really done a lot already with the hardware, so I'll just fill in a few ideas from the install perspective. Go over this checklist to make sure the install is set up correctly, optimized for best performance, and any needed repairs get done: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wiki...

Start with Step 4 to turn off Startup freeloaders which can conflict and cause issues, then Step 7 to check for infection the most thorough way, then step 10 to check for damaged System Files, and also Step 16 to test a new Local Admin account. Then continue with the other steps to go over your install most thoroughly.

It would be interesting to see how it compares when running the new version about to be released any day now. See how to try it now:
https://geekermag.com/download-windows-10-april...
You can roll it back if it doesn't help in Recovery settings or from Repair Mode.

If you've only tried the latest display driver, I'd try the last two before it to compare as well.

Interact with the author of Wagnard fix in his comments section as he's way up in those advanced fixes. There's also a very good Reddit thread here to browse and possibly add to:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/8cd...

I hope this helps. Feel free to ask back any questions and keep me posted. If you'll wait to rate whether my post helped you, I will keep working with you until it's resolved.

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Thank you so much Greg for the fast response!, I just installed Windows today so it's a fresh installation, I'll try the step you suggested and the new version you are talking about sounds really promising, I hope it's what me and a lot more are looking for.

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I just tried the latest build 1903 and the interface is really beautiful, but sadly the issue is still there, exactly the same.. 

Do you know if we can download the iso from this version? maybe a clean install could be better.

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The ISO will be released to MCT in May, and is only available now to MSDN subscribers: https://pureinfotech.com/windows-10-1903-iso-do...

You can try a Clean install beside your present install by shrinking C in Disk Mgmt, install to the shrink space following these illustrated steps in this link which compile the best possible Clean Install of Windows which will stay that way as long as you stick with the tools and methods given, has zero reported problems, and is better than any amount of money could buy: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wiki...

This will create a Dual Boot to test and compare, if the new install doesn't help just delete it in Disk Mgmt and Extend over the space. If it works then move your files over, set it up and when ready I'll help you surgically remove it and recover the disk space to new C.
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Is this the only game with a stutter problem ? What other titles might you have that stutter ? I'd be interested in comparing.

Interesting that clearing the memory cache helps. Particularly with heaps of VRAM and more than adequate system RAM.

The Shader Cache in Nvidia Control Panel is supposed to reduce stutter, but I have a few games that crash if it's enabled.

11.8GB seems a lot of cached RAM at startup though. I currently have only 2.4GB of 16GB. I just loaded GTA5 and the cache still only hit

4.5 after closing the game. Oops... 9.1 after adding FC5.  I think the telling part here is there is still 12.1GB Available.

The cache should flush and refresh as required by the game.

- Do you have a lot of stuff  loading with Windows ( Task Manager > Startup), or do a lot of multi-tasking ?

- Is Windows Page File\Virtual Memory enabled ? If not, could you be be pushing stuff that would be stored here into RAM cache ?

- What resolution are you running the game at ? Does the screen 'tear' if the frame rates go over 60fps without V-sync enabled ?

Have you tried using a DSR resolution to put more load on the gpu ?

- Apparently some recent games have an issue with Hyper-threading being enabled on cpu's with more than four cores.

Ryzen series in particular, and even with quad core cpu's Hyper-threading can cause issues with some older games..

...But I don't recall if stutter is one of them.  I have noticed that while cpu use drops on the physical cpu cores

in FC5 with HT enabled, it does not increase fps. Could this maybe translate to stutter reduction as well ?

- I wouldn't be disabling a Windows High Power plan, but normally run Adaptive in Nvidia Control Panels Power Management.

I do have Prefer Maximum Performance with a few games though.

- I reckon you can clean install Win10 until the cows come home and it's not going to help with any stutter issues.

Stutter and micro-stutter has been an issue for years, and it's always been a PITA for some. Some people are more sensitive to stutter,

and some games are more prone to stutter than others, and I believe high end machines may suffer the most. Close analysis when

running new hardware is always going to draw attention.

- The games engine would seem to be a big factor, otherwise all games would likely stutter at a given frame rate. A lot of games

have a bad reputation for stutter.

'But Can it run Crysis ?'  :) .... Crysis is still the biggest blur and stutterfest game I have. Still a system intensive game,

using a machine killing game engine to this day (got caught up analysing it again when I upgraded to the 1080 not long ago).

Stutter while panning is said to be in part due to the complex interaction between frame rates, monitor refresh rates, and settings
such a to V-sync or not to V-sync. Fixed frame rates, G-sync with or without V-sync or fast V-sync etc. are more variables to experiment with.

Different games 'balance' better with different setting combinations.

-  I think of stutter as an apparent jerky movement instead of motion blur when panning quickly from side to side

in first person mode.

A bit of an ||||| effect (the worst example I've seen is when enabling Blur Reduction on my BenQ monitor... Useless gimmick, that).

I'm not seeing that in your video, but I do see a bit of lag, or glitches in your video before clearing the cache, and a bit smoother

movement after clearing the cache.

I'm not generally bothered by the glitches I see in your video, but I've never expected completely fluid movement in games. Glitches are something I'm not surprised seeing while watching millions\trillions of 0's and 1's being transformed into moving 3D imagery.

Still pretty blinkin' amazing, I reckon.

[EDIT: While looking at the video some more the unsteadiness is getting old, and I would not be real happy with it.

And then I loaded The Witcher 2 . No glitch\stutter, but blurring is more prominent than your video (Intel i7 4790 w\GTX1080).

 (Dropped back to 2.5GB RAM cache too).  ]


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Thank you all for your answers, I really appreciate your time and effort.

I did everything I could I think, I even took the trouble to install Windows 7 and test and I can reproduce the same issue even there.

Is my Hardware that is giving me issues? the game engine maybe? I don't know what to do now.

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Did you complete all steps I gave, skipping none? We often find out later that the fix was the skipped step, so please do not skip any. If you need help performing any step I will help.

You are correct that this narrows it to hardware or the game. Do any other games or apps cause this issue?

Test the RAM overnight to stress it with the best bootable test memtest86, following these steps which test both the sticks and the slots: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/105647-ram...

Test the SSD with manufacturers tools, optimize and adjust trim:
https://merabheja.com/ssd-health-monitor/
https://mashtips.com/ssd-health-test-and-perfor...
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I just built my new PC and I'm facing this terrible stuttering, I have to clean my cached memory with the Wagnard fix 



If I don't use that, I can't play anything, I made a video:


Specs:

Ryzen 5 2600 @4ghz / 1.3v
DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport AT (BLS8G4D30CESTK) 8gbx2 XMP 3066mhz
Asus Rog B450-F Gaming
EVGA RTX 2070 FTW3
SSD Samsung Evo 860 1TB
Corsair RM 650x

Any ideas? I'm using latest drivers, bios and windows update, already tried:

Disabling HPET, dynamic tick, high power plan, performance plan on nvidia control panel, memtest86 0 errors, prime95 0 errors.

I'd really appreciate any help

First make sure your SSD is properly trimmed and optimized

The Ryzen 2000 series are designed for DDR4-2966 maximum so try changing your memory timing

Use the balanced power plan which is adaptive

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Thank you for your response HARDCORE GAMES™. I got a question, I changed my RAM from slots, to slot A1 and B1, then I configured the XMP that is 3000mhz and I got BSOD, even after clearing CMOS, I changed them back to A2 and B2 and now they're working fine again, could be a faulty motherboard?

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