SSD drive optimize

Hi hrtm58,

As far as I know Windows will only Optimize when necessary although analysed is done more often.

Of course, it is up to you how your computer is set up and here is a write up about Trim.

What is SSD TRIM, why is it useful, and how to check whether it is turned on | Digital Citizen

Hi BryceSor,
So my biggest problem is that the computer is doing something I haven’t allowed. SSD optimization is one thing I see as a pointless measure. Analysis and optimization are, of course, different things, but both make unnecessary use of computer resources. If for some reason I want to optimize the SSD drive, I can do it manually. Like I said, this is not a big problem. I regret my poor English language skills, this is written using a translator.

I don't have the best English skills and it is my language, lol. Your message is written well in English.

The information below is taken from the link in my first post, 

You can disable Trim by the following

How to disable SSD TRIM in Windows

Although there are no reasons for doing this, in case you want to disable TRIM on your Windows PC, you can do that too.

Open Command Prompt as administrator, enter the command: fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify 1, and press Enter on your keyboard.

SSD, TRIM

If you get the message “NTFS DisableDeleteNotify = 1”, it means that TRIM has been disabled on your SSD.

SSD drives are not optimize in the same manner as a Hard Disk Drive (HDD).  Hard disks are defragmented using the "Optimize" feature in Windows 10.  For SSD(s) optimization is basically running "Trim" which frees up the space / blocks which previous contain a file or part of a file that  was deleted but Trim has yet to make it available for reuse. Using Optimization  on an SSD does not cause any wear on a SSD where as failure to run Trim / Optimize (which by default runs in the background when you computer is idle) where as "Optimize" as on a schedule (Default is every 10 days) or on demand.

What you do not want to do if you have a SSD is run Defragmentation software as it will not result in a performance boost and "does" cause excessive wear on the SSD. However unlike SSD drives, Hard drives do perform better after defragmenting the hard drive.

So for your SSD "Optimize" but do not defrag.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3188460/when-to-check-defrag-and-optimize-storage-devices.html

J W Stuart: https://www.pagestart.com

Here is some great Tutorials and one of the guys that writes them is Finnish.

Windows 10 Tutorials (tenforums.com) 

As far SSD and HDD I think Windows should call them with different names for defrag as it is very confusing or have completely different programs to deal with HDD and SSD when it comes to Defrag and Trim.

Hopefully this Doc helps:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/defrag

Scheduled task

The defragmentation process runs scheduled task as a maintenance task, which typically runs every week. As an Administrator, you can change the how often the task runs by using the Optimize Drives app.

• When run from the scheduled task, defrag uses the below policy guidelines for SSDs:

  • Traditional optimization processes. Includes traditional defragmentation, for example moving files to make them reasonably contiguous and retrim. This is done once per month. However, if both traditional defragmentation and retrim are skipped, then analysis isn't run. Changing the frequency of the scheduled task does not affect the once per month cadence for the SSDs.

  • If you manually run traditional defragmentation on a SSD, between your normally scheduled runs, the next scheduled task run performs analysis and retrim, but skips traditional defragmentation on that SSD.

  • If you skip analysis, you won't see an updated Last run time in the Optimize Drives app. Because of that, the Last run time can be up to a month old.

  • You might find that scheduled task hasn't defragmented all volumes. This is typically because:

    • The process won't wake the computer to run.

    • The computer isn't plugged in. The process won't run if the computer is running on battery power.

    • The computer started back up (resumed from idle).

Hi,

Just as a side note.. I have noticed this as well, and not just with SSDs..

I use a 3rd party defragger because of it's extra features, so I turn off the scheduled Windows Defrag tool..

Recently.. sometime in the last 6 months to a year, Major windows updates turn the scheduled optimization back on.. I also find that irritating.. I discovered this accidentally when a 8TB HDD was running continuously for an unknown reason.. Very aggravating, especially when you forget to turn it back off..

I am not worried about the wear and tear on my SSD.. I have abused it badly over the years and it is still working good.. I think that the former issues of defragging and overwriting on SSDs is ancient history..

CrystalDiskInfo shows more power on cycles and TBs written on the SSD than most of my HDDs..

The issue is the program accessing my drives of any type, behind the scenes, without my permission..