Disk Optimization IS NOT Running Automatically Properly

Hi Johnny,

Have you come across the Docs for defrag as I haven't read this before so thought I would post it?

There are some interesting points.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/defrag

Heres my system in which my HDD are defrag but like the points say SSD's  can not be scheduled. 

As per the Microsoft article whose link you supplied, SSDs cannot be scheduled to be defragged. The following screenshot, in the white rectangle, is from the article.

For SSDs, Trim is meant by defragmentation, I believe, and by the article, it is my understanding that Trim cannot be scheduled to run periodically.

Is my understanding right ? If yes, when does Trim run ? Does SSD firmware decide if Trim should run or not run ? 

Can you or some other forum member who has knowledge on this shed some light on this situation ?

Thanks Suat and Bryce for adding to this thread,

As Suat mentioned, from the article Bryce posted, "You can't schedule to defrag a SSD or volume on a VHD that resides on an SSD." This is understandable point regarding VHD on SSD, it is not clear as it fails to mention trim, only defrag.

In my first example, the Host (VMware) resides on SSD, the virtual machine resides on a separate HDD. The vm's manually Defrag, not Trim. As my main is Legacy bios as well as the vm's, in this example, Disk Optimization did automatically Defrag "System Reserved", but not the main Drive C: partition. This clearly shows a problem.

In the second example with SSD and HDD, the HDD's were maintained, not the SSD so it comes down to:

As all SSD's use Trim rather than Defrag, does or does this not still get scheduled with Disk Optimization?

Bryce, perhaps you recall the thread regarding Disk Optimization fails to retain last run info. Everyone was telling me it runs in the background, was a cosmetic issue. The subject of Defrag or Trim never came up.

It was not good enough for me, had to dbl check on all remotes that I maintained. Some questioned the hours wasted. It is what it is. Glad to state fully retired from freelancing. The gov taxes made it so, was not worth the effort. More time for me to annoy MS  :-)

Anyhow, hopefully Eddie or Jason can clarify if this be the case regarding Trim with Disk Optimization. Is this by design or a flaw?

Have a great day everyone!

Regards,

Here is one of my machines, all have SSDs and HDDs..

Today's Update:

This is a problem that I have reported a number of times. Defrag and Optimization are NOT the same. SSD:s can't be defragged but they can be optimized (trimmed) . After every reboot, any settings you have set will go away. Even setting them again and setting the schedule to Daily, the schedule never runs. It needs to be fixed!

Hello Mike,

I have always kept the settings on default, so was not aware of Disk Optimization not retaining any change of settings. Thank you for bringing this up.

Normally never run into this situation with autorun as part of my ritual after any update, newly installed programs, etc. run Disk Cleanup and then Disk Optimization manually to trim the SSD.

Have left a message with Jason regarding this issue. Hopefully Jason or Eddie will respond shortly.

Appreciate your input, and thank you for pointing out not retaining options in settings.

Regards,

Edit: Tried on my Acer laptop adjusting settings to daily. It remained there after several reboots. It did retain it's settings each time.

Another day, no change with Disk Optimization:

FBH link:  https://aka.ms/AA9zxhw

Johnny, 

I don't understand this.

If it was not retaining the settings, how did this happen on 10/14/2020. 

I did not do it manually so something must have triggered it ?

I thick it was Eddie who said it was cosmetic  and it should of ran , I don't think it should be called defrag  for SSD drives because it very confusing as it is  two different  methods to achieve similar outcomes..

like you I don't think Trim wasn't talked about in your first post about this issue or I can't remember.

MS should design a new program just for SSD as I think there enough of them about these days.