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MSE Alters Custom HOSTS Files

I have heard elsewhere that MSE alters and/or schreds custom HOSTS Files.
As this one:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm 

Can anyone from MS confirm or deny this, please.

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Just to be clear, my HOSTS file is not hidden or read only.  It is no longer excluded or ignored by MSE, which is a very good thing.  I may run further tests if I can find a really "infected" HOSTS file.

Sure would be nice to know if MSE is still monitoring the HOSTS file or if this feature has been removed completely.

EDIT:  I found an infected HOSTS file in this thread:
http://www.techsupportforum.com/security-center/virus-trojan-spyware-help/421249-suspicious-entries-google-name-hosts-file-google-will-not-load.html

MSE detects and cleans this HOSTS file.  Good job!
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Hi Randy,

I am not from Microsoft, but I can comfirm that MSE "cleans" custom HOSTS files.  Please see this thread:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/msestart/thread/adcc0736-af36-4e4d-a892-bf1950e4b391

When this "threat" warning is displayed, just allow it and you will not be bothered again.

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Hasn't happened here (WinXP SP3) during a Quick Scan or Full Scan.

My hosts file has not been put in the Excluded Files list...but it does have a Read Only attribute. <VBEG>
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I stand corrected.  Looks like this problem has been fixed, and my HOSTS file does not have a read only attribute.

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The operative here Trader is excluded regardless of file attribute. Hiding your HOSTS file doesn't accomplish much.
Real malware will see it all the same.

Should MSE be set to ignore HOSTS file scanning, so be it.   
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Just to be clear, my HOSTS file is not hidden or read only.  It is no longer excluded or ignored by MSE, which is a very good thing.  I may run further tests if I can find a really "infected" HOSTS file.

Sure would be nice to know if MSE is still monitoring the HOSTS file or if this feature has been removed completely.

EDIT:  I found an infected HOSTS file in this thread:
http://www.techsupportforum.com/security-center/virus-trojan-spyware-help/421249-suspicious-entries-google-name-hosts-file-google-will-not-load.html

MSE detects and cleans this HOSTS file.  Good job!
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Hasn't happened here (WinXP SP3) during a Quick Scan or Full Scan.

My hosts file has not been put in the Excluded Files list...but it does have a Read Only attribute. <VBEG>
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear); MS MVP (IE, Mail, Security, Windows & Update Services) since 2002; Disclaimer: I neither represent nor work for Microsoft

It's BAAAAACK!  MSE with definitions 1.69.357.0 just "cleaned" (removed) the following HOSTS file entries:
127.0.0.1  ad.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1  dl.360safe.com
127.0.0.1  www.google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1  ad-flow.com
127.0.0.1  adhostcenter.com
127.0.0.1  adtrade.net
127.0.0.1  advertising.com
127.0.0.1  atdmt.com
127.0.0.1  commission-junction.com
127.0.0.1  doubleclick.com
127.0.0.1  doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1  engine.awaps.net
127.0.0.1  fastclick.com
127.0.0.1  fastclick.net
127.0.0.1  js.users.51.la
127.0.0.1  popuptraffic.com

Can anyone else confirm this?

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Quick scan run ~4 hours ago didn't touch my hosts file.

WinXP SP3
MSE v1.1611.0
Engine v1.1.5202.0
Defs v1.69.374.0
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Quick scan run ~4 hours ago didn't touch my hosts file.

WinXP SP3
MSE v1.1611.0
Engine v1.1.5202.0
Defs v1.69.374.0

Hello PA Bear,

Thanks for the quick reply.  It seems that if the HOSTS file is sufficiently large, the problem does not occur.  If you could, please create a HOSTS file in any directory with the following entries and scan it:
127.0.0.1  localhost
127.0.0.1  ad.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1  dl.360safe.com
127.0.0.1  www.google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1  ad-flow.com
127.0.0.1  adhostcenter.com
127.0.0.1  adtrade.net
127.0.0.1  advertising.com
127.0.0.1  atdmt.com
127.0.0.1  commission-junction.com
127.0.0.1  doubleclick.com
127.0.0.1  doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1  engine.awaps.net
127.0.0.1  fastclick.com
127.0.0.1  fastclick.net
127.0.0.1  js.users.51.la
127.0.0.1  popuptraffic.com

TIA

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All of those entries were already in my custom hosts file when I ran my last scan.
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How large is your custom hosts file?

The SettingsModifier:Win32/PossibleHostsFileHijack was updated on 27 October:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Threat/Encyclopedia/Entry.aspx?Name=SettingsModifier%3aWin32%2fPossibleHostsFileHijack

I'm guessing that's when the problem returned.

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